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#1 ahoward2194

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Posted 04 October 2017 - 01:54 AM

So, I have a five month old Great Dane. He is a super sweet and lovable boy, but I have been struggling with potty training him. He knows to go potty immediately when we go to “his spot” outside, but I am still struggling with getting him to not go potty inside.

 

I have been crate training him, but about a little over a month ago, I decided to let him sleep outside of the crate since he was proving to be able to hold it through the night. Every now and then, he will wake me up in the middle of the night to go outside (not a big deal). He has gotten so great at alerting me when I’m asleep that he doesn’t ever have accidents at night. However, I work 8-5, so he is in the crate during the day. We will go days with no accidents in the crate, then we will go days with accidents back to back. I have him on a strict schedule, so the inconsistencies with his accidents have left me baffled and, quite frankly, a bit annoyed. His crate is big enough for him to lay down but not big enough for him to avoid his “mess.”

 

Another thing that I’m struggling with is getting him to not poop in the house. I will take him out and he will poop outside, then 20-60 minutes later, he poops in the house (even if he hasn’t eaten anything) without a warning.

 

I always reprimand him when he has an accident, but I am starting to feel defeated. The inconsistencies with his accidents—in and out of the crate—are starting to take a toll on me. Will this get better? Does this have anything to do with his age? If so, what can I do to minimize/eliminate the accidents in the meantime? 



#2 Vee414

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Posted 04 October 2017 - 12:54 PM

I have a nearly five month old boy Great Dane - my first Dane, so I'm still learning, and hopefully others with more experience will chip in, too.

 

I would say at the moment, my boy is almost 100% house trained.  He's crated overnight at the moment and does really well (hooray for unbroken sleep!!).  We've had three "accidents" over the past 10 days (all poo), and nothing for several weeks before that.  The accidents were either a slightly upset stomach or, this morning, torrential rain - he hates heavy rain, and ran back inside before he'd done everything he needed to do! (I can't really blame him - the water was lying nearly an inch deep in places).

 

Being realistic, my boy isn't quite five months yet, still a baby despite his size, so I don't expect him to be perfect.  I keep an eye on him during the day (I work from home).  His toileting periods can vary wildly during the day - he's not in his crate during the day unless I have to pop out.  If he's snoozing, he can go up to 3 1/2 hours, if he's bouncing about like a maniac it can be 20 minutes, and sometimes he'll go and then need to go again a short time later - it depends on level of activity, how much he's had to drink, when he last ate and probably a whole bunch of other things that I haven't worked out yet.  Because his toilet needs are really varied, I can well believe that your boy's accidents seem random to you.

 

A few things stood out for me from your post:

- You don't mention getting people in to let your boy out during the day?  8 to 5 is too long to be leaving a 5 month old in a crate at one time - the general rule of thumb seems to be they can "hold it" for one hour per month, so absolute, absolute, maximum at the moment during the day will be 5 hours and much, much less if they are moving about and / or playing - even in a crate, something could catch his attention outside.  Like I said above, my boy rarely does more than 3 1/2 hours during the day, and most of that is when he's sleeping. Do you have someone coming to let him out a couple of times a day?  That would really help. Keeping an eye on my boy is really time consuming but I'm lucky enough to have a day care facility near me, so he's there two days a week to let me get some work done!

- If he does have an accident indoors, don't tell him off, just clean up without acknowledgment and if he's going in the same places indoors, make sure to use a biological cleanser that means there's no lingering smell for him to go back to

- If you know he tends to poo indoors 20 - 60 minutes after he's been outside, watch him like a hawk and the moment he looks like he might be going to go, take him outside - interrupt with a happy noise, and get him outside asap - my boy knows "outside" as a cue to get himself to the back door (when he was smaller, I did bundle him up and carry him outside a few times - he's too big now!).

- when he does go outside, are you giving lots (and I mean lots) of praise?  Make it a party - I praise every single time he "goes" in an appropriate place, and give "treats" (actually bits of his kibble, but he loves it) most times - occasionally he'll wander off to sniff something, so misses his treat.

 

I read a lot of posts here before I got my boy and it does seem that toilet training can take a while - key things are masses of patience, lots of praise, and consistency and you will get there.

 

Best of luck.

 

Vanessa



#3 bigcheese

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Posted 04 October 2017 - 02:29 PM

Don't want to be a negative contributor but leaving a dane for 8 hours in one go is not an ideal situation

When we adopted our Harlequin we were told that 4 hours is the maximum you should leave a Dane and they would not have let us adopt if we were both working full-time



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Posted 04 October 2017 - 08:14 PM

The is an old saying regarding Great Danes------You don't own a Great Dane-----Great Danes own you. Therefore, Danes need people around them most of the time.

I cant advise anyone on how to keep there dogs. I can only give an incite to what we have done.

We have 4 dogs ,the oldest being 10 and the youngest being 2 1/2.

They are all different in many ways. The oldest who is a girl took about 11 month to be completely toilet trained. They 9 year old who is a boy took about 4 months,

the 5 1/2 year old boy took probably 16 months (However we did discover that he had some internal issues which might have affected him )

The youngest boy Granville took about 4-5 months.

We have had dogs who have passed away now and they where all different.

We personally would never leave Great Danes at home for more that a couple of hours unattended. They are DEFINITLY not the breed for that

That's our experience with the Danes

I hope that helps

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 10:20 PM

Since reading your post I have been trying very hard not to reply in a negative manner but unfortunately you have made several statements which truly sadden me and worry me for the well being of your pup.

 

I don't know how much research you did before buying your Dane or what advice the breeder gave you but you should know that Danes crave human company and leaving him for 9 hours a day is totally unacceptable, especially as he is shut in a crate which forces him to lay in his own mess if he has an accident. May I suggest you try being shut in a small room with no stimulation for 9 hrs?

Leaving him for that long means he is not getting any stimulation, exercise or socialisation ..... all things that are vital for any growing pup.

 

I would suggest that if you want to correct the toilet training issues ...... and avoid behavoural issues ...... you need to employ a dog sitter or walker so that he gets company and stimulation.

 

The other thing that saddened me was your statement that you always reprimand him for having accidents. All you will succeed in doing is making him fearful and confused, the basic ruling is ignore the bad stuff and praise the good stuff.

I believe this is a case of "train the owner, not the dog".

 

Sorry if you find my comments unacceptable but it has truly upset me to think of the life your pup is living, I hope you can find a resolution to improve things.

 

 

So, I have a five month old Great Dane. He is a super sweet and lovable boy, but I have been struggling with potty training him. He knows to go potty immediately when we go to “his spot” outside, but I am still struggling with getting him to not go potty inside.

 

I have been crate training him, but about a little over a month ago, I decided to let him sleep outside of the crate since he was proving to be able to hold it through the night. Every now and then, he will wake me up in the middle of the night to go outside (not a big deal). He has gotten so great at alerting me when I’m asleep that he doesn’t ever have accidents at night. However, I work 8-5, so he is in the crate during the day. We will go days with no accidents in the crate, then we will go days with accidents back to back. I have him on a strict schedule, so the inconsistencies with his accidents have left me baffled and, quite frankly, a bit annoyed. His crate is big enough for him to lay down but not big enough for him to avoid his “mess.”

 

Another thing that I’m struggling with is getting him to not poop in the house. I will take him out and he will poop outside, then 20-60 minutes later, he poops in the house (even if he hasn’t eaten anything) without a warning.

 

I always reprimand him when he has an accident, but I am starting to feel defeated. The inconsistencies with his accidents—in and out of the crate—are starting to take a toll on me. Will this get better? Does this have anything to do with his age? If so, what can I do to minimize/eliminate the accidents in the meantime?